The Truth About ESG in Social Impact | Vision Isn’t Enough

In this thought-provoking interview, Dev sits down with leadership expert John Poulsen to unpack the real challenges of ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) in purpose-driven organisations. While ESG is often geared toward for-profit companies, what happens when it’s applied to for-purpose organisations that exist to deliver social value?

Dev and John explore the Barrett Model, the gap between vision and operational sustainability, and why strong foundations are essential for meaningful impact.

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